“So keeping in mind that any art is open to interpretation, to me this is basically about asymmetry.
We live in a culture that has an entire genre of humour relying on stereotypes about women. Women drivers. Women should get in the kitchen. Women should make me a sandwich. While we’re getting to a place where these kind of jokes get called out on occasion, maybe with a “dude, not cool” or a “that’s sexist!” there are so many of them that it would be literally impossible to address the problematic nature of such jokes one at a time. Entire industries exist based on the idea that women’s feelings don’t matter: we need to make them hate their bodies so that we can make a profit on eyelash extensions and skin lightening cream.
By contrast, one person makes one joke devaluing men and it spawns thousands of words on this one thread alone condemning it.
You’re hurt by a joke about one person not considering men’s feelings? Good. That’s the point. Now imagine that you live in a society where you face these sorts of microagressions hundreds of times per day and the toll it would take on you. Imagine that you couldn’t complain about it without being dismissed as “oversensitive” or “unable to take a joke”.
You, on the other hand, face this sort of discrimination so seldomly that a single instance is enough for you to have to bring it to the feminists you know as a “look at how mean the feminists are!” for us to make you feel better. You can count on a dozen other people coming to support you for having to bear witness to a diluted version of something that women are faced with every day.
The point of the comic is that the hurt you are feeling now is the hurt that many women feel on a daily basis. You want to challenge bigotry, start with your own male privilege and how the mere fact of your gender privileges you in our society: in this case enabling you to avoid devaluing statements that are directed towards men. An entire society built up around protecting you and your feelings.
For another example, consider the transgender saying, “die cis scum”. The flipside of this statement, “die trans scum” is horribly bigoted, so why isn’t the first version just as reprehensible? It’s about an imbalance of power. Trans* people disproportionately face danger from cis people every day of their lives because of their gender identity. Saying “die cis scum” is a threat with no power behind it. It’s an indication of privilege, and how little cis people have to fear as compared to what trans* people face, and how little power trans* people have to follow through on their “threat”.
Likewise, saying, “I don’t care about men’s feelings” is an inversion of an *actual* trope about our society that dismisses women’s feelings.
If you can’t take a joke, why should they?”
This is one interpretation I got from the group so far today. Feeling like I had some idea I proposed to the group that they examine the same chart. Many of the initial responses echoed my original thought on the graph. We assumed it was a meme, or a quick on off. What we soon came to understand is that we, and myself in particular, were not looking deep enough. Feeling that a base knowledge and support of the movement in general, not understanding that the position I am currently in was in some way, intentional.
I will take this opportunity right now to publicly apologize for the term FN, having been told that the term extremist is also not the best term and really, in context, not good of me at all. I am sorry
Now I need to thank you all, because of the course of events that have transpired I now understand a little bit more, have more context and content. I have always been a supporter and I want to continue being that way. My last posts I was down trodden and remorseful, guilty, discouraged, confused. I didn’t know what was going on, let alone understand it. So for making me go through a roller coaster than I can only really call subjective art or some form of art in itself - Thanks.
More than that now other people who have not had the opportunity to think about this and view it have, and we have had a fairly long discussion about it. It’s great, that is what this internet thing is supposed to do and again today it did it, this time with me “in the middle” so to say. Ya I was butt hurt from the attack, nowwww not so butt hurt. Actually maybe even a little happy that people are learning and moving forward and gaining from this slightly nasty experience. A lot of people don’t get access to modern thoughts and have no way to push forward if they aren’t either pushed, shoved or thrown infront of it. I feel like a little of all 3.
I am in for an interesting couple of days I am sure, I will need slightly tougher skin. As for you people out there who already have tougher skin because of the adversity you’ve faced, if we all stand together and educate together we will make the changes needed to stop the hate, we have to be the ones to stop it first. I will be the first to admit there are things I need to change and actions to take to be a better person. Every day another battle.